Just in case people don’t know… Yes, that’s the actual headline. Pretty sure Vox is actively trying to get our attention.

I don’t like this. I really, really don’t like this. On, like, a visceral level.

If it’s personal behavior, there is no line.

Seriously, we need to internalize this: If you support Donald Trump in 2024 at this point, there is no goddamn line. There is nothing too atrocious or puerile or insulting to his own base that he could do or say to lose them at this point. He owns them.

I used to joke that he could literally eat a baby live on stage at one of his rallies and not lose supporters, because he’d insist it was fake news even as the blood dripped down his chin.

It’s not a joke anymore. He really could do it, and far too many of his supporters would believe him over their own lying eyes.

Trump support, at this point, is a mental health crisis in this country.

Void, here. And I just gotta say…

Sounds like some deeply, deeply internalized self-hatred going on there.

Wow. This is… wow. OK, look… I like the sentiment, the idea that healthy relationships in general should be depicted more often, but can you name the last ten shows or movies you watched that feature healthy depictions of LGBTQ+ relationships? I can, because those depictions are so rare they stand out. I can’t name the last ten shows or movies I watched with straight relationships in them, because that’s literally all of them. Yes, including the ones that also depicted LGBTQ+ relationships.

There needs to be more healthy representation of relationships. But specifically straight ones? Nah… We’re saturated with those enough already.

Holy shit, he actually said that.

This, right here, is a prime example of a political headline that looks like it comes from The Onion.

You do raise some valid points, but the problem here is that if we go that route, we might as well rename this community from “Not The Onion” to “Politics But Focused Mostly On Hypocrisy”.

I don’t think most of the people in this community want this to be a politically-focused community to the exclusion of everything else. We don’t want every article on the front page to be yet another “Trump did/said something hypocritical again.” That’s not Onion-y.

No worries. I’m utterly incapable of basic logic until I get my coffee.

I’ll allow it.

Those were examples of actual Onion headlines to serve as guidelines for the headlines that would fit well here. But yeah, actual Onion articles wouldn’t fit here, because… This is Not The Onion.

So… Please drink some coffee.

I mean, I’m not gonna dispute that reality has been resembling The Onion more and more, but it’s important that the headlines convey that Onion-y goodness, and too many lately haven’t or are really borderline. People come here to say to themselves, “Holy shit, I can’t believe that’s a real headline!” Not “Holy shit… now I’m depressed. Oh, and that headline… is depressing.”

Hey, I try to keep a hands-off approach to modding as much as possible, but you’re right, this has indeed gotten out of control.

I’d appreciate it if people would report posts that don’t belong here more, because otherwise I’m not likely to see them until they’ve already gathered a ton of comments, and I’m hesitant to remove posts at that point.

So… Thanks for posting about this.

Hey guys, this one’s… borderline. The idea that Trump never said that is silly enough that I’m going to allow this post to stay, but its onion-y flavor is pretty weak.

Why?

Because Iran is a Russian ally and Russian proxy.

Biden is doing this - he is threatening the ICC and ICJ

No, he isn’t. Where in the world are you getting the idea that he’s literally “threatening” either?

Biden is not doing this. We have not stopped weapon shipments and have clearly been unable (more like unwilling) to stop or prevent Israel’s genocide

Dude, we temporarily halted shipments earlier this month to put pressure on Netanyahu. Were you sleeping?

Also, Israel is not our ally. Their geopolitical interests align with Putin. Which is why they are trying to get Trump elected so that they can destroy the remnants of the “rules based international order” and begin in earnest their conquest of Greater Israel

Netanyahu’s interests may align with Putin, but only insofar as both seem hell-bent on destabilizing the region. Putin would gladly let Iran stroll right into Israel and slaughter everyone in it. Israel’s own actual interests do not remotely align with Putin’s.

Every time I encounter the “don’t vote” brigade, my first thought is that it’s a Russian or Chinese troll trying to get Trump elected again.

My second thought, which is a bit more nuanced, is some introspection on what Biden is actually doing. He has three options with regards to Israel, none of them good.

1. He could deny them weapons, which would inevitably lead to outright war with Iran and an increase in Russian influence in the region, as well as a loss of an ally.
2. He could fully commit to Netanyahu’s madness (i.e., what Trump wants to do), fully empowering genocide while using no political leverage on Israel. This would also ultimately lead to broad regional warfare, which will also likely increase Russian influence in the region.
3. He could try to limit the damage by imposing conditions on weapons sales and attempt to thread the needle, recognizing Hamas for the grotesque terrorist organization it is while using political pressure to prevent as much needless death of civilians as possible. This is what Biden is trying to do.

I don’t know that Biden is doing a very good job with #3, but #1 would be a catastrophe, and #2 is what Trump wants.

This is a shitty situation in every conceivable way. Our ally, Israel, is currently being run by a corrupt and genocidal freak. There are no good answers to a situation like that beyond Israel coming to its senses and throwing Netanyahu in prison. But there are plenty of really bad answers, and Trump would be the worst.

Stop using Xitter, people. Let it die.

The Republican claim on hard-nosed, reality-based reasoning is just so astoundingly mendacious. I find myself legitimately perplexed over the whole thing.

I mean, the guys who believe the Earth is 6,000 years old, trickle-down economics work, ectopic pregnancies are a gift from God and mustn’t be stopped, vaccines are poisonous, life doesn’t evolve, and Donald Trump was a good president are the down-to-Earth realists? Is this performance art of some kind?

How do people like that survive to adulthood?

I mean, it was a fucking weird thing for the movie to do, too.

This is partially true. The rich have definitely benefited more than everyone else. But the actual statistics don’t lie… Wages are not actually stagnant, they’ve been ticking upward, and it’s finally happening faster than inflation. It’s not helping everyone, of course, but it’s not all doom and gloom, either. And inflation really is down - importantly, lower than the global average by quite a bit.

I’m not going to argue that everything is going perfectly, because it’s clearly not. For one thing, everything that can get passed in the House has to overcome Republican obstruction right now, only to face Republican obstruction in the Senate, too. We have a half-&-half government where one half is sociopathic, and that’s not amazing. In fact, while some economic indicators are good, the whole thing does appear pretty fragile.

Which is kinda the thesis of my original comment.