Do you think you’re good at being persuasive?

Israel bombed Rafah and Biden did nothing.

Biden has consistently given Israel all of the military aid it asks for. The “pause” lasted only a few days. And then Israel bombed Rafah

There will not be a permanent ceasefire. This is purely optics to make it look like Biden is doing something. And will be used to blame Hamas and justify additional murder when the negotiations inevitably collapse. It is only for optics

The Republicans are identical to the Dems in terms of policy on the Gazan Genocide. The Dems just use softer language when they exterminate Gazans than the Republicans would.

I don’t care what language is used. I don’t care about aesthetics. I care about stopping the United States and Israel’s extermination of the Gazans. Biden needs to do that, and to enact systemic regime change in Israel to prevent this from ever happening again

The only attacks on minorities that I’ve observed on here are attacks on those who think Gazans should not experience genocide.

Plenty of people on here who simp for the American ruling class though

It’s not conservatives. Conservatives aren’t on Lemmy.

It’s the majority of Democrats who now believe Israel is committing genocide. And who can’t afford housing or groceries

Biden is not trying to slow the genocide down. He is funding it and arming it.

He is better than Trump on every other issue. There is no difference here on the issue of genocide

It’s like asking if Auschwitz or Dachau is worse

Both need to be liberated

Biden is currently committing genocide. Which is the worst crime there is.

Trump would also commit genocide.

Biden needs to change his policy on this drastically. Why won’t he? If he doesn’t, he loses.

Biden and Netanyahu are currently perpetrating genocide. Haley is not.

What did Never Again mean after the Holocaust? Did it mean nothing?

Who cares? Biden sent the bombs and Netanyahu is using them. She has no power here - they do.

She’s evil as a general matter. But Biden and Netanyahu are worse regarding the current genocide

“The Germans needed the gas to fight back the Soviets - how were we to know they would continue to send our gas to Dachau?”

Why is Biden sending bombs then?

But she obviously will never be charged. Ever.

Genocide is bad because it’s evil, not because it’s illegal. Idk why you’re fixated on laws here

presidents are required by American law since 2008 to ensure that Israel is better armed than all its neighbours

Or else what?

Also, funding and arming genocide is also illegal. And immoral. And stupid.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leahy_Law

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1091

Biden/Dems sent the genocide bombs and Haley/Republicans autographed them.

I’m not sure how that improves things

Because Iran is a Russian ally and Russian proxy.

Yes, but why does that mean stopping US weapons shipments to Israel would cause Iran to invade/attack/etc? Israel has a huge weapons stockpile and is still a Western ally - they just happen to be committing genocide with American funds and bombs.

Where in the world are you getting the idea that he’s literally “threatening” either?

https://www.ft.com/content/6700a246-e0cd-49d8-b5ef-d2379e86290f

“The administration of President Joe Biden will work with Congress on possible sanctions against the International Criminal Court after its prosecutor announced it was seeking arrest warrants for senior Israeli and Hamas officials, US secretary of state Antony Blinken said on Tuesday.”

we temporarily halted shipments earlier this month to put pressure on Netanyahu

We resumed those shipments and funds, and Israel has since crossed Biden’s red line and attacked Rafah

Netanyahu’s interests may align with Putin

Netanyahu/Likud are dictators who control Israel. Until he/they are removed, their interests are Israel’s interests. Which means that Israel is a Russian asset with a stranglehold on American funds thanks to AIPAC

Everyone on this site thinks that the GOP of 2024 is a fascist party and that Trump is worse than Biden

He could deny them weapons, which would inevitably lead to outright war with Iran and an increase in Russian influence in the region

Why?

He could fully commit to Netanyahu’s madness (i.e., what Trump wants to do), fully empowering genocide while using no political leverage on Israel.

Biden is doing this - he is threatening the ICC and ICJ

He could try to limit the damage by imposing conditions on weapons sales and attempt to thread the needle, recognizing Hamas for the grotesque terrorist organization it is while using political pressure to prevent as much needless death of civilians as possible. This is what Biden is trying to do.

Biden is not doing this. We have not stopped weapon shipments and have clearly been unable (more like unwilling) to stop or prevent Israel’s genocide

Also, Israel is not our ally. Their geopolitical interests align with Putin. Which is why they are trying to get Trump elected so that they can destroy the remnants of the “rules based international order” and begin in earnest their conquest of Greater Israel