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  • When people eat cereal, there’s generally one debate. Milk first, or cereal first?

    Would it interest you to know that I don’t like milk on my cereal AT ALL? No milk please!

    Or that with the exception of corn, I eat all my vegitables raw only?

    Or that I don’t like dark chocolate?

    I’m trying to think of other things people think is crazy that I don’t like…

    OH! Mac and Cheese.

    I also find it strange that people will defend pineapple on pizza as being “not wrong, just let people enjoy what they enjoy” but will throw a hissy fit if someone were to eat a hot dog sideways, or sit on a toilet backwards (which originally was the intended method).












  • Nobody was ever defending them, or the conditions they’re put in. But there’s a difference between something like an actual concentration camp, which sole purpose is to kill ALL that come into it, and something like the modern day holding prisons along the mexican border.

    The purpose of those prisons along the border is to dehumanize people, torture them, beat them, and then release them. That is the intended purpose by those that built them. Some people die in those conditions. It is not the intent, but it does happen.

    Nobody is argueing that we’re in favor of these prisons. Yes they are awful. They DO kill thousands each year. Nobody is defending that.

    I’m just saying in this world both the left and the right are taking the most extreme version of events, try to pass them off as reality, and then wonder why the other side sees them as insane.

    Conceptually speaking, an actual concentration camp intentionally kills in less than a half hour what these holding prisons kill in a year. Millions of Jews died in just over 4 years. Something like 40% of their total population at the time. Meanwhile, you could add up 30 years of the border prisons, and they maybe have killed 1% of the population.

    I would love to see an easier legal way for mexicans to come to America. I’ve heard the average wait for the legal process to work is 28 years. I’d rather they just fill out some forms, prove that they know the country and can speak passable english, and stamp their entry card. But until that happens, they’re going to try to cross the boarder illegally because it’s their only option.

    The only way to remove those prisons, is to basically gut this entire country, and rebuild the culture. We need the culture we were taught exists as kids in school. The America that has not only tolerance, but embracement for other races and peoples. The melting pot of oppertunity is how I was taught this country behaved. Instead I’ve seen racism so thick that a white woman yelled at a native american woman to go back to her country without a hint of irony.

    But all of this happens, because half this country WANTS it to happen. And why? Because they’re fed batshit insane stories by their media that tells them we’re all insane for wanting mexicans to become citizens. Then they see you saying that a holding prison is the same as what happens at concentration camps, and it adds to the legitimacy that their opposing side is insane.

    Well the thing about lying and manipulation is, the big lie relies on credibility. If I tell you 5 small truths that you already know, and they reinforce your beliefs, then I can tell you a medium lie, and it’s believable. Because if I have a history of telling the truth, then I’ve developed trust with you that you can believe me when I say something you’re not sure of. You don’t know if that medium lie is true or not, but I’ve never steered you wrong before. So even if the medium lie isn’t true, you see it as an inaccuracy rather than a lie.

    So these right wing news outlets sprinkle just enough truth, mixed in with reenforcing their own already set opinions that now they can tell small lies all day, and their base won’t even question them. Because they see them as a credible source.

    But then they see you saying that a holding cell with inhuman conditions is the same as actual concentration camps, and it becomes very easy for them to see you as insane. Therefore you must be lying, because their news source said you’re lying. So the conditions must not be that bad. And that becomes the narrative. One side vs an opposing side, because both sides are drifting farther and farther apart. Unable to see eye to eye. Both sides acting insane. Neither side willing to comprimise.

    And welcome to the modern day. Where reality doesn’t matter as long as corporate interests pay less taxes, and pay less wages. So we ALL suffer.



  • I agree with the few things I read on there, but, they seem to be taking the stance of “The system is fair, and a vote will do this if the people vote for us!”

    Here’s the problem. A few years ago here in Ohio, it was determined that the maps had to be redrawn because they were already gerrymandered to hell. The people voted on this. It was legally required by vote.

    What instead happened, was the republicans who control the state, gave them 5 different maps, mostly identical, and none of which addressed the spirit of what the vote had called for. To this day, an approved map has not been submitted, despite being well past the due date. Many, myself included, believe that until some force MAKES them submit a fair map, they will continue to play games, and waste everybodies time. All in an effort to affect future voting.

    What needs to happen instead, is an independant commitee needs to step in. Not the republicans. Not the democrats. But a mix of both. And here’s the kicker. IF they can’t come up with an agreement by the time voting season starts? Then Ohio shouldn’t get to vote. It’s either get your shit together, on a platform you can both agree on, or both of you lose out. That’s it. End of story.

    And what happens if all 50 states do this? Welp. Guess we hand the keys to the country back over to England. Hey England. Sorry about that whole 248 year rebellion. We’re rejoining you now!



  • Unless I’m misreading this whole exchange, I believe what’s being discussed is the modern day Mexican border, and the holding camps in which families are sometimes seperated. They have conditions which actively lead to people dying. Children and small women especially.

    They aren’t actively designed as a concentration camp, but in smaller numbers that’s the end result sometimes. The problem in this conversation I see is that terrible inhuman conditions which do lead to death by the thousands each year is being compared to a place like auschwitz, which killed people by the millions each year intentionally by design.

    What you’re linking is true, and it was terrible, but it was also close to 80 years ago. The Japanese today have no issue with coming to America.

    So this whole thread to me seems like 5 different people, all shouting 5 different arguementive points, none of which corelate with each other in any way.

    …so what are we even doing here?